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2005-05-06 [09:00:52] <dr> gert here?
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2005-05-06 [09:07:20] <dr> gert: man.poznan.pl has withdrawn their 2001:808::/35 more-specific (to the /32) yesterday... so your presentation had effect. now really noone in RIPE region announces /35 more-specifics anymore ;)
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2005-05-06 [09:07:59] <dr> (just comment to gert, doesn't need relaying to room via microphone really)
2005-05-06 [09:08:27] <iljitsch> what's today's size of the v6 table?
2005-05-06 [09:09:02] <dr> around 590 prefixes
2005-05-06 [09:09:14] <dr> telnet grh.sixxs.net
2005-05-06 [09:09:15] <dr> sh bg su
2005-05-06 [09:09:34] <dr> caveat: a lot of them announce their IBGP unfiltered to GRH :-(
2005-05-06 [09:10:32] <dr> Sprint uses 6175 for v6
2005-05-06 [09:10:53] <dr> DFN uses 1275 fuer v6
2005-05-06 [09:11:03] <dr> MCI EU uses 12702 for v6
2005-05-06 [09:13:04] <iljitsch> YOU DON'T NEED TO DEAGGREGATE FOR TRAFFIC ENGINEERING.
2005-05-06 [09:17:15] <iljitsch> why isn't it easy?
2005-05-06 [09:20:06] <iljitsch> please don't shout in the mike...
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2005-05-06 [09:23:39] <iljitsch> yes, as long as your isp doesn't ingress filter...
2005-05-06 [09:24:40] <iljitsch> my experience: the individual hosts are much easier now because of autoconfiguration, filter and dns stuff is the same.
2005-05-06 [09:25:19] <iljitsch> so renumbering a fairly small network and a much larger network aren't very different now.
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2005-05-06 [09:30:26] <iljitsch> Is the list IPv6-only, btw? That would be cool.  :-)
2005-05-06 [09:31:11] <dr> there is no problem of mirroring the archive
2005-05-06 [09:39:43] <iljitsch> you're a site if you have internal routing
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2005-05-06 [09:43:04] <iljitsch> example: I have a personal server in a colo room
2005-05-06 [09:43:07] <iljitsch> it has a /48.
2005-05-06 [09:44:00] <iljitsch> you can't do /128 for dial up because pppv6 doesn't support address assignment.
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2005-05-06 [09:57:02] <iljitsch> louder please!!!
2005-05-06 [09:59:32] <iljitsch> Well, nobody is reading anyway but a comment: it would be a mistake to assume a subnet per individual user just because we can't be 100% sure we'll never need this ever in the future. If things change this drastically we can always revisit what we decide now.
2005-05-06 [10:01:37] <iljitsch> less bits because 16 seems outrageous isn't a good argument. IPv6 is outrageous, get used to it.
2005-05-06 [10:05:44] <iljitsch> I want to change /64 to a different number.
2005-05-06 [10:20:57] <iljitsch> who is talking right now?
2005-05-06 [10:22:01] <irc> ([rvs]) Iljitsch, there is quite a queue before the mic
2005-05-06 [10:22:02] <iljitsch> has this guy ever done any ipv6 deployment???
2005-05-06 [10:22:16] <iljitsch> rvs: so?
2005-05-06 [10:22:33] <irc> ([rvs]) just fyi
2005-05-06 [10:23:56] <iljitsch> mike please!
2005-05-06 [10:28:57] <iljitsch> flexible is bad, people can't predict the future
2005-05-06 [10:29:14] <iljitsch> two sizes fit all: too small and too large.
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